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This is a consultation
that I did with a
gentleman named Mark who
needed some advice in
“kick starting” is
copywriting business.
This short recording is
packed with great
information for new and
veteran copywriters! You
may get some ideas for
business avenues that
you haven’t thought of
before.
At the beginning of our
conversation, Mark was
mainly concerned about
what the name of his
copywriting business
should be. His first
thought was to use his
surname. However, he
believed that his
surname might be too
unusual for someone to
pronounce. You’ll hear
how we discuss sole
proprietorships and the
option of incorporating
after getting started,
obtaining customers, and
making some money. Find
out what Mark finally
decides to use as his
business name.
Listen as I give Mark an
idea about obtaining
copywriting work by
researching Ebay. Look
for closed auctions for
big ticket items where
the item did not sell.
Look at the Ebay ad to
see what could have made
the item sell. Sometimes
it is simply because
there was no research
done on the item and
thus, there was not a
good description of the
item or its features.
Contact the seller by
email and negotiate to
re-write the ad and
re-run the auction. If
the item sells, you
would get a negotiated
percentage of the sales
price. Of course, you
would need an option
agreement and some sort
of non-disclosure
agreement as well as
software that would
prohibit the seller from
printing or copying your
ad – but you’ll hear me
explain the details of
everything you would
need to accomplish this.
Listen as I give example
of a generic email that
could be modified for
any auction and sent to
sellers.
I advise Mark to
research unsuccessful
closed auctions for
boats, houses,
machinery, and other
high priced items. And
don’t just stay with
Ebay. Look into the real
estate market for
beautiful homes that
just aren’t selling.
Most of the time, real
estate ads just don’t do
a good enough job of
explaining the real
advantages of owning
that particular home.
The very best way to
advertise a home is to
interview the current
homeowner about the home
itself, the
neighborhood, the
schools, etc. –
important things that
real families are
interested in.
Listen to my own
experience with using
written copy in
conjunction with audio
for both a product and
for real estate.
Mark certainly loved
that idea and was going
to start researching
completed auctions for
big ticket items on Ebay
right away! The key is
to identify poor ads for
great products. You must
also learn to negotiate
well and then you will
have a great niche
market!
Near the end of this
audio, listen as I
describe a Bonus
Resource on my web site,
www.hardtofindseminars.com.
It’s more than 15 hours
of copywriting audios
from my best interviews
with copywriting experts
such as Brian Keith
Voiles, Eugene Schwartz,
and many others. This is
a “must have” set of
materials for both new
and existing copywriters
that will reveal
copywriting secrets and
make your business more
successful. Enjoy!
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How To Jump-start Your
Copywriting Business To
Get Clients Fast.”
Update |
Welcome to an update with Mark,
a copywriter that I previously
did a consultation with to
advise him about some of the
best ways to kick start his new
copywriting business.
You will hear how Mark had,
indeed, implemented some of the
strategies that I had
recommended – specifically about
how to obtain clients using Ebay.
Here’s what Mark did:
• He researched Ebay for
completed listings by category
where the item did not sell. The
categories that he has
investigated thus far include
cars, boats, real estate,
trading cards, and some other
big ticket items.
• He developed a sales letter
that he sent to these Ebay
sellers. A copy of Mark’s sales
letter is included in the
transcription below.
• He sent out between twenty and
thirty of these sales letters to
the unsuccessful Ebay sellers
and received a 10% response (not
bad for a start!).
He believes that he may be able
to strike a deal to re-write one
of his respondent’s Ebay ads
with his copywriting skills.
The great part about Mark’s new
venture is that it took him less
than an hour to send out all of
his sales letters! He admits
that this type of sales approach
is much easier than approaching
businesses cold. He also admits
that Ebay has so many auctions
that he could never even scratch
the surface of all of the
closed, unsuccessful auctions
that he could approach (Hint:
Some copywriting competition
wouldn’t hurt Mark!).
In our conversation, Mark says
that he needs to develop more of
a solid system to research and
follow through with potential
clients. You will hear me
suggest that he look into
implementing the HMA System’s
Opportunity Analysis into his
sales letter and follow through
phases.
I send him links to specific
interviews and consultations on
my web site dealing with
Opportunity Analyses. If used,
the Opportunity Analysis would
provide a proven methodology to
help his potential clients to
grow their businesses or sell
their big ticket items. It might
also open opportunities for Mark
to do more marketing for his
clients – not just copywriting –
because it would entrench Mark
in his potential clients’
businesses.
Stay tuned for more updates on
Mark and his success with his
new copywriting business!
Michael: Would you be willing to
provide the site visitors with a
sample of the email that you
sent out through eBay to show
them how you did it to generate
the leads?
Mark: Yeah, I’d love to.
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Hi, it’s Michael Senoff with
HardtoFindSeminars.com. Here
is a follow-up part two from
advice with a copywriter, his
name is Mark, and he actually
took my advice and went out onto
eBay to try and go secure some
copywriting clients. You’re
going to hear all the details in
this short recording. Enjoy!
Michael: Let’s just do a quick
update. So, I got an email from
you thanking me for the advice,
and you also had mentioned that
you implemented some of the
strategies as far as getting
some potential copywriting work
by using eBay or PayPal. Can you
tell me what you did to get that
ball rolling after we had
talked?
Mark: Sure, what I first did was
I went through eBay and I
checked out completed listings
and I went by category. I
started out in, I think it was
automotive, and what I did was I
just picked categories and
looked for completed listings
and then I went to those
listings to see how many of them
had not been relisted, and then
I put together a short sales
letter, if you will. It was only
just a few lines saying, “Hello,
my name is Mark. I help eBayers
sell their items within ten
days.” I don’t have my notes in
front of me. So, bear with me.
Michael: That’s okay.
Mark: “I help them sell their
items within ten days,
guaranteed, and it only takes
about 30-60 minutes over the
phone or by email.” I just put
the Unique Selling Proposition
right in the message, and I hit
“Contact the Member”, and I just
pasted it in there, and boom I
was done.
Michael: So, you sent that out.
You were looking at completed
auctions, and who were you
sending them to, people who were
trying to sell what, cars?
Mark: Yeah, one was actually a
smart car – it’s a unique
listing because what the guy’s
trying to do is raise money on
an expedition with one of these
smart cars, the hybrid
combustion engines, and trying
to raise some money that his
group can take these two cars on
an expedition, and they’re
selling ad space on the car.
That was one of the leads that I
got from this, and I’m still
working on him right now.
Michael: And, how many of those
little emails did you send out
through the eBay thing?
Mark: I didn’t count them up,
but I would estimate probably
about twenty or thirty.
Michael: Now, did they let you
send out twenty or thirty?
Because I believe if you’re an
eBay member, they will limit the
amount of contacts you can make
through their system.
Mark: Yeah, that’s right. They
do, but overall I sent about
twenty or thirty.
Michael: I think you’re allowed
to send ten a day.
Mark: It’s actually eight.
Michael: Is it eight a day?
Mark: Yes.
Michael: So, you sent out twenty
to thirty, and you looked for
specific auctions that you felt
like you could help them. You
didn’t just send them out to
anyone and everyone, did you?
Mark: No, not really. I looked
in different categories like
Sports Trading Cards, Real
Estate. I sent one yesterday to
a guy who’s selling a boat, a
cruiseliner or some type of
power boat, and to the smart car
and somebody who was selling
these memory servers for people
who own tape libraries online.
Michael: Okay. So, tell me, out
of the twenty or thirty you
sent, what kind of response did
you get?
Mark: Well, so far, I had just
three or four inquiries.
Michael: So, about ten percent
response, not bad at all.
Mark: Not bad at all.
Michael: Did they respond to you
through eBay? Or did you have
your phone number in there? How
did you get them to respond?
Mark: Oh, I left my email in the
message as well.
Michael: Now, you have their
email address and you can
communicate outside of the eBay
thing.
Mark: That’s correct.
Michael: Okay, very good. So,
have you talked to any of them
on the phone?
Mark: Not on the phone yet
because one of them lives in
Canada. So far, we’ve been doing
okay by email for one of them.
The other lead I was working on,
that turned out to be a no go,
and I indicated that was likely
in my last email to you.
Michael: Okay, great. Well, how
long did it take you to send out
those twenty to thirty, if you
added up all the time?
Mark: It couldn’t have been more
than an hour all together.
Michael: Do you think you’re
going to get one paying client
out of those three or four?
Mark: I think I might. This one
that I’m working on with the
expedition, this looks like the
strongest candidate. I was
trying to finalize some details,
and I’m going to send him a
written agreement and see what
they really want to do to get
some solid answers from him.
Michael: Okay, would you be
willing to provide the site
visitors with a sample of the
email that you sent out through
eBay to show them how you did it
to generate the leads?
Mark: Yeah, I’d love to. Do you
want me to send it to you?
Michael: Yes, just shoot it to
me and I’ll PDF it and put it up
there.
Mark: Okay.
Michael: Will you keep me posted
as you progress on this thing?
Mark: Yes, definitely.
Michael: Is this a lot easier
than approaching businesses
cold?
Mark: I would say far easier.
Michael: Do you think you have
still a few potential people to
contact through eBay?
Mark: I believe that I will
never even scratch the surface
because there’s so many
different categories, and
believe it or not, there’s a lot
of completed listings that many
of them do not sell or even get
a bid on their items. There’s a
lot of them out there. I don’t
think I would be hurt by a
little competition.
Michael: No, I don’t think so
either. Do you think you could,
as long as you have Internet
connection, you could do this
from anywhere in the world?
Mark: Absolutely.
Michael: From any coffee shop or
any computer terminal, right?
Mark: Yes, I believe so.
Michael: So, let me ask you
this. Are you creating a process
in place? You send out the
emails. The emails come back.
And, when you email them back,
what are you saying? Do you have
a process in place to line this
up, get it systematized?
Mark: I’m still fine-tuning it
as I go. I see that I’m going to
have to be a little more
structured.
Michael: Because I think that’s
where the HMA system can help
you, the opportunity analysis.
Are you aware of that?
Mark: Vaguely.
Michael: I’m going to send you
to a link and there’s some
recordings on there. HMA System
is a marketing consulting system
where I teach people how to do
marketing consulting, and you’re
approaching a business where
he’s trying to sell a product or
service, but before you can
really and truly help him as a
copywriter, you need to
understand some things about his
business, where he wants to go.
And, it gives you the ability to
evaluate whether this is a good
client you even want to mess
with.
So, it’s a structured series of
questions that you ask them.
It’s called an opportunity
analysis that allows you to
really entrench yourself in the
business and to build
credibility on yourself. So,
you’re not there just helping
rewrite a letter. That’s how you
got on the phone with him, but
you’re really there to show him
how to grow his business without
spending much more money on
advertising.
But, this would be perfect to
take a potential client through
not only to get him as a
copywriting client, which is
just one aspect of marketing,
but possibly to get him on a
fuller scale marketing plan
where you can sell marketing
services as well.
Mark: Yeah, actually, that’s
what I’m hoping to do something
a little long-term.
Michael: Have you listened to
any of the recordings that’s in
a section called “Consulting
Secrets”? Does that ring a bell?
It’s all these recordings with a
guy named Richard? He was a Jay
Abraham trained marketing
consulting. Do you remember
listening to anything on
consulting?
Mark: Not on consulting by
itself, no.
Michael: Okay. This is going to
be perfect for you. I’m going to
send you to a series of
recordings, and there’s a lot of
content on there, but look for
case studies there. Before you
listen to any of them, read
through the descriptions and
you’ll hear me doing these
opportunity analysis
consultations. There’s four of
them up on this page - one with
a mover, one with a guy who has
a string cheese business,
there’s another with an
accountant in Australia. Listen
to how I do this and this is
what you should be doing with
these potential clients, if you
want to go for bigger money
other than just copywriting
fees.
Mark: I get you.
Michael: Okay.
Mark: Is that kind of what
you’re doing with the guy with
the Advanced Hosting?
Michael: That’s exactly it. He
was a client of mine, and we did
a trade for about $3,000 worth
of hosting. I took him through
the first step of the system
which is creating the USP, but
yes. Well, I didn’t actually go
too much into opportunity
analysis with him, but that was
me creating and developing a USP
for his business.
Mark: I’m listening to that one.
Michael: Now, do you see how if
I was a copywriter I would still
need to do this to find out what
separates him from all his
competition? So, when I write my
copy for him, I’m really
standing out and the copy is
going to be more effective in
selling against his competitors,
but yeah, and that’s a step in
the system that you should sell
for $3,000.
In the string cheese, you’ll
hear me sell a guy the first
step for $1,500 just to develop
his USP, and you can position
yourself and say, “Look, I do
copywriting. I can write you
anything and everything, but if
you really want the writing to
be effective, let me develop a
USP because this is what we
should be doing before I write a
word of copy for your business.”
Mark: Yeah, that makes a lot of
sense.
Michael: And, then you can get a
fee for that or negotiate that
and say, “I’ll do the USP free
and then the copywriting fee
will be this.” They can get you
entrenched into their business
in a big week. All right, so I
sent you that link. Take a look
through those recordings and
let’s keep in touch, okay?
Mark: Sure. There’s one question
if you’ve got time.
Michael: Yeah, go.
Mark: About getting things
upfront. I run into that with a
couple of people, and a lot of
people don’t want to do that.
Michael: Getting what upfront,
what do you mean?
Mark: I mean fees.
Michael: Oh, getting fees
upfront?
Mark: Yeah, a percentage
upfront.
Michael: You know what? They’re
not qualified. In one hour, you
could get three or four calls. I
would recommend that you don’t
do anything unless you get at
least some of your fee upfront.
It just shows that they’re
committed. Unless you really
feel good about the guy and you
keep some kind of control, I
wouldn’t invest any time. I
would just send out another
thirty emails and wait until you
find someone who really wants to
grow, is committed, and is
willing to pay something up
front.
If you could use this
opportunity analysis as a way to
qualify yourself and really show
them the money because you’ll
hear how it shows them the
money, they’ll be sold. You’ll
be building your credibility,
and if they can’t see the money
they’re leaving on the table
because their marketing or their
copywriting or their eBay ad –
and that all relates to other
parts of their business – is
week, then they’re not
qualified.
So, I wouldn’t even waste the
time on anyone who’s not willing
to put anything up front. You’re
willing to invest your time,
your effort – you time is money,
and you’re only willing to work
with partners. You want to be
seen as a partner. You come in
as a partner, okay?
Mark: Sure, sounds good.
Michael: All right, and I’ve got
the email here. Let me just read
this, “My name is Mark. I help
eBayers sell their products in
ten days or less guaranteed by
writing compelling sales letters
for their listing and it only
takes 30-60 minutes over the
phone or through email. I will
write a winning sales letter for
your item that will sell within
ten days or less. If it doesn’t
sell within ten days, I’ll
rewrite it until it does at no
extra charge. If you have any
questions, feel free to contact
me.” That’s very good.
Now, when they call you, that
30-60 minutes, over the phone,
could be that opportunity
analysis. If they’re not willing
to do the opportunity analysis,
you could send them to this
presentation which I’m going to
email you, too, right now. It’s
called Free Advertising
Workshop. You could tell them
you normally charge for this.
This will do all your selling
for you for your marketing
services, okay?
Mark: Okay.
Michael: I’m sending that right
now, and even my HMA consultants
will be interested in this lead
generating technique, and it’s
very effective. All right Mark?
Mark: Okay, thanks a lot.
Michael: Thank you very much.
I’ve emailed both of those.
Let’s keep in touch.
Mark: You bet, bye.
Michael: Bye |