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Michael: That is your best
source for additional
business. You’re sitting on
an additional $10,000 a
month right there in that
database. Don’t you think it
would be important to
consistently ask them to do
business with you?
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Michael: Hi, this is Michael
Senoff with
www.hardtofindseminars.com
and Consulting Secrets.
Here’s an exciting one-hour
opportunity analysis that I
did with a gentleman who is
a small business owner who
has a tanning bed salon and
he wanted to grow his
business. Now, what I want
you to keep in mind here and
comparing to some of my
other opportunity analysis
is how easy the sale is
made. And the reason the
sale was made easily is
because this gentleman knew
exactly what he needed. He
was on my side. This is
probably one of the best
examples I’ve seen of having
a qualified prospect. So, as
you listen to this and as
you listen to me take this
gentleman through the
opportunity analysis, listen
for all the buying signals.
Listen how he’s on my side.
Listen how he’s motivated to
grow his business. Listen
how he finds hidden assets
in his business to use that
money to grow the business.
And listen how I’m able to
simply invite him to doing
the USP for $1,500. It’s a
great example of how and why
you should only be talking
with qualified prospects.
This is a wonderful example
of that. So, I hope you
enjoy.
George: Hello, Mike.
Michael: Hey George, how are
you?
George: Great, yourself?
Michael: Let me start off by
just explaining what I would
say to you at the beginning.
I don’t know how much I’ve
told you yesterday when we
talked on the phone about
who I am and why we’re
getting together today. So,
let me just tell you quickly
a little bit about what I
do. What I do and what my
consulting company does is I
work with business owners,
people like yourself,
helping them to maximize
their marketing success.
Now, most of my clients,
they’re small to medium size
companies, similar to yours,
with sales under $5 million
per year. And I work in a
unique marketing approach,
different than a lot of
marketing consultants. I
look at all your marketing
assets, the things that are
sitting in your business
that you don’t really
realize are an asset and I
find ways to leverage and
optimize those. You already
have these assets in place.
So, because I’m trying to
leverage existing marketing
assets, you can often
realize some pretty dramatic
and profitable growth
without having to invest a
bunch of money or make a lot
of significant changes in
your business operation. So,
what I’d like to do is,
today, I’d like to take a
look at your business and
see where you and where
you’re going and how you’re
going to get there and see
if there maybe some ways
that I can help you grow
your business. Does that
make sense?
George: Yes.
Michael: Not every business
that I talk to has these
assets, but that’s why we’re
talking today. We’re going
to see if we can find some
stuff that we can leverage
and help you growth without
dumping more money into
advertising.
First let me tell you
another difference in the
way we work. We work
strictly on a project by
project basis and depending
on what we do, the fee for
each one of these projects
can be anywhere from $800 to
$2,000 a project. But most
businesses we work with fall
into one of three different
situations. Now, one,
they’re either doing okay,
but want to do better, or
two, they’re kind of
stagnant and there’s not
much growth, and three,
they’re declining in
revenue. Can you tell me
where you are now?
George: First one.
Michael: You’re the first
one.
George: I’m the first one.
My business is improving in
sales and clientele base. I
believe that it ought to be
like probably double it.
I’ve got lots of material
that I also know they’re
going to help. What I’m
struggling to do is
implement those ideas and
execute those plans. I could
listen to all those
marketing materials. My
thinking is that I’m kind of
an individual, the quick
start. I start things, but I
don’t really follow through.
Michael: Well, that’s
another thing that separates
our HMA system is that our
consultants do the
implementation for you
rather than just give you a
bunch of material for you to
do it yourself. So, we know
that you’re busy operating
your tanning salon business
and you’re busy in the
business and that’s why most
business owners never really
act on the marketing advice
that they see in the books
and tapes. So, that is one
thing that separates our HMA
consultant is that we
actually implement them for
you so you can do what you
do best and that’s running
the business.
George: Actually I devote my
time to just marketing. I’m
not in the business. I work
on the business and at this
point I have six employees
that are working. I should
say that my main business is
real estate.
Michael: Is real estate.
George: Yes. I buy and sell,
I buy and hold, I flip and
that’s what I do and that’s
where most of my time is
going.
Michael: Well, we’re going
to keep on track for this
conversation today, we’re
going to be talking about
your retail tanning salon.
Let’s get into it. You want
to double the business. I
don’t know if we’re going to
be able to do that, but
let’s take a look and let’s
start with looking at what
we call a USP, a unique
selling proposition. And
what I’m going to be looking
for as I ask you some
questions, I’m going to look
for under promoted USPs. I’m
going to look for the
expertise about you and your
staff experience, what makes
you competitive compared to
other tanning salons,
looking at price
differentiations, and things
like that.
So, I want to ask you, why
should people do business
with you? Why should they
come to your tanning salon?
Why don’t you tell me what
is your business called?
Tell me where it is located
and how long its been
operating. And then let’s
get into why you think
people should do business
with you.
George: First of all, we’re
offering unique services.
Michael: How long have you
had it?
George: This business has
been there from 2001. I
purchased the business in
2004. Since that time, when
I purchased that business, I
was able to double the
clientele, double the sales.
Michael: How many beds do
you have?
George: Six total. I’m just
about to put in another one.
Michael: And is it in a
retail location? Where is it
situated?
George: It’s in a
residential area.
Geographically targeted
market that they go on
vacation twice a year. They
come to us just before the
vacation to pre-tan. We deal
with our clients on a
personal level, help them
really what they want to
achieve and help them
achieve that. We really care
about them. We know most of
our clients by first name,
which is 2,000 clientele.
When a person walks in he
feels comfortable. What I
want to say is the service
that we are offering, we are
making it for people, for
clients, to feel that they
don’t go to some place that
just take their money. We’re
offering them the expertise.
Our staff is certified. And
that’s what I think is the
difference between the
competitor and us. We’re
kind of a small place that
people come in and relax and
have the best 20 minutes of
their day.
Michael: What I hear you
saying is where your other
competition may treat people
more like a number in and
out rather than a person.
When they come to your
place, there are only six
beds, you know everyone by
name, they feel comfortable
coming in, you’re a friendly
service, kind of like a
neighborhood feel.
George: Exactly.
Michael: And you feel like
that’s why people come to
you.
George: Exactly. Most of my
competition in the area is
big franchises. They are
company operated with a
manager who is running them.
And those managers are on a
salary base. Now, they have
the system in place. I could
see that they are able to
get much more clientele and
service more people because
of the system they have in
place and all the marketing.
For me, it’s really a
neighborhood and we have a
relationship with the
client.
Michael: How is your price
compared to the competition?
George: I don’t want to be a
price competitive business,
but we offer better value. I
match their prices. One of
them is Tan Unlimited, close
to where we are and their
strategy is to get people in
the door with a small
membership or something and
they give them one of those
for them to use some of
their basic _____.
But they also get them in
for one year with post-dated
checks or a monthly
withdrawal from their
account. I am different in
that I have like the same 24
unlimited for a month, but
there is no contract or no
membership required.
Michael: How do you accept
the money? Does it
automatically charge on
their card?
George: They come in and
they pay for a month and the
next month they might not
come in and pay again. What
they have is the first month
is $39. Every month after
that it’s $24.95 or some
people come in and renew
their unlimited month before
or on the date that it
expires.
Michael: What are your
customers coming for?
They’re coming in to tan…
George: Location is
convenient to them and also
they find a good bargain.
Michael: But why are they
tanning? They’re getting
tanned before they go on
vacation?
George: That’s one reason.
Michael: To prepare them so
they get burned. What’s
another reason?
George: Another reason is
throughout the year they
just want to have a healthy
looking skin like suntan.
Another reason is that is a
source of vitamin D and also
I have people who are coming
in for some disorder
throughout the winter
months.
Sometimes they’ve been
prescribed something from
their doctors, sometimes
they know when they come in
there they feel the energy.
I think the main reason is
because I ask every person
how was it after the tan and
95% it was relaxing. And
that's the main reason. The
benefit is getting the
healthy looking skin.
Michael: How about the
safety issue of tanning?
There’s a lot of negative
publicity…
George: Those people that
are coming in, they know
it’s just something that’s
relaxing. They never
experienced it themselves.
Michael: Is it safe to come
tan at your beds?
George: It is. It is much
better. The number one
reason is the UV light is no
different than the UV that’s
coming from the sun. Most
negative publicity think…the
sun’s been on the earth for
a million years and everyone
needs the sun. What’s not
good is overexposure. If you
overexpose yourself, you get
chances of skin cancer and
things like that. Indoor
tanning…we control the
exposure, so better to have
indoor tanning than outdoor
tanning just because we’re
going to control it for just
gradually increasing the
timing. That’s how we help
people not to burn from the
first tan they go on
vacation.
Michael: Wonderful. You
talked about a lot of things
that really do separate you
from all the other tanning
salons out there. Do your
employees know this and
understand this?
George: They go for
training. Yes they do. But
also I have a really high
turnover like on the
employees. Most of them are
young students. It’s very
hard to find a person who
stays longer. Now, what I
want to also say, two of my
staff they’ve been with me
for a year and a half now.
They tell me they’re going
to be with me for the rest
of their work life.
Michael: What we’re talking
about isn’t really
communicated over to the
customers or to potential
prospects. Is that true?
George: Yes, exactly. I want
to have a system in place, a
referral system. I also want
to have a marketing
newsletter like direct mail.
Also for them, we just did a
mail selling proposition.
Michael: I see the piece
that you sent me. They’re
very pretty and everything,
but they don’t really say
much. They don’t have a
reason why, a USP, a
compelling reason why
someone should come to your
tanning bed. That’s got to
be integrated all through
your marketing, the way you
answer the phone, the
brochure that someone gets
when they come in or take
home with them. It could be
posted inside the room where
they’re tanning. This
message has got to be
drilled into all your
customers and your potential
prospects. Now, do you see
if we could integrate that
message to your existing
customers and potential
prospects how that can grow
your business even more?
George: Yes, I could see.
Below the logo, I have the
fact, which says your daily
oasis awaits.
Michael: I don’t have it
opened right now. Your daily
oasis awaits; that means
nothing. That’s not succinct
enough.
George: Unique selling
proposition?
Michael: No it is not. But
so you understand, if we get
a selling proposition on
your brochures, integrate it
on the phone on an answering
recording when no one is
there, in the rooms, on your
invoices; every time you
touch a customer or a
potential prospect how that
could grow your business.
That’s one way we can do
that and that’s develop a
strong USP that can be
consistent through all the
touches of your customers,
like I just mentioned in the
example. Number two, one
thing that we do with a
business, once we have that
integrated, once we have
that USP developed, then we
would leverage that current
marketing process. So, when
I ask you these questions,
what I’m going to be looking
for is some other hidden
assets in your business as
far as when you have
potential prospects to see
if we can increase the sales
of your business. Can you
tell me about your current
prospect to sales process?
How are you getting your
customers right now mainly?
George: Mainly by location.
Michael: They are walk-in
trade?
George: Yes and drive by.
Michael: So, they see the
sign and they come in. Let’s
say ten people come in. What
percentage will sign up with
you? What would you say?
George: I would say 80% or
more.
Michael: Eight percent. What
happens to the other two
percent who don’t buy?
George: What they want to
do…some of them…is shop
around.
Michael: They’ll shop
around?
George: Yes. Go to some
other place and they come
back. But most of the time
they stay, they come in.
What I have is for new
clients, I’ve got three tans
for $9.99. Sometimes like
one session is only $8 to
$10. There is competition
out there selling one tan
for $12. My prices are
really competitive. I don’t
want to lower them.
Michael: No, no you don’t.
And that’s another benefit.
When you have a succinct USP
and a selling proposition,
you can actually increase
your price. Most people only
compete on price because
they have nothing else to
compete on.
George: I don’t want to
compete on price.
Michael: Yes, you don’t want
to do that. Once we get a
USP in place, you can start
increasing your price
because now you’re going to
be selling the real value of
why someone should come tan
with you.
George: Exactly.
Michael: And people will pay
more that.
George: What I was thinking
is guaranteed tan in two
weeks or less.
Michael: That’s not a bad
idea. So, the two percent
that don’t buy, do you
follow up with those ones
who walk out of there.
George: No, it’s hard to. If
I’m there I make sure they
stay and I do everything and
I tell them…I really ask
questions, what they want to
really accomplish. In most
cases I’m going to give them
real value. Try us out. No
obligation. See how you like
it.
Michael: But you’re not
going to get 100%. You’re
going to let some slip by if
you’re not following up for
whatever reason. People may
come in there, they may walk
out. They have intentions to
sign up with you, but they
may get busy. There may be
interruptions in their life.
George: Yes. It’s hard to
take a name and address from
the time they walk in.
Michael: If I can show you a
way to capture their name or
an email address or a way to
contact them, do you see
that maybe we may be able to
get that one percent of two
percent?
George: The way I capture
them is I give them a free
value.
Michael: So, you give them
one free tan?
George: Sometimes I could
give them free tans. For
them to get the free value,
they have to give their name
and once they’re in my
system, I know I could mail
to them directly. What I did
at Christmas, I sent a
Christmas card with a $10
gift certificate voucher in
that card and wishing them a
Merry Christmas. I got the
return of 18% on those.
Michael: That’s very good,
great. Even though it may
not be a big increase, we
could probably just by
following up the people who
walked out and come up with
a way to capture their
information, maybe even
without having to give
something away for free. We
could increase your business
even if it’s ten percent.
It’s still a ten percent
growth.
George: Yes.
Michael: Well, that’s
capitalizing on the people
who don’t buy. Now, let’s
talk about your past,
present, and prospective
customers. I want to look at
your customer base that’s
not being worked or your
inactive customers or cross
selling opportunities with
your business and also some
backend opportunities. This
is where we can really get a
lot of growth in the revenue
for your business.
George: I know just to
reactive clients, that’s
what I should concentrate
on.
Michael: How long do they
stay with you generally?
George: Most of them a year,
sometimes just a month. If
they stay one month, I know
there is a problem with my
services. I’ve got right now
a unique customer base of
350 people that they come in
month after month.
Michael: So, you have 350
people who are coming in
monthly and what are they
paying per month.
George: Average about more
than $30-$35.
Michael: Thirty-five dollars
a month.
George: Yes.
Michael: So, that’s $12,250
a month of regular revenue
coming in.
George: Yes.
Michael: That’s pretty good.
George: I shouldn’t say that
because in the summer it’s
not that much.
Michael: What if we said
you’re bringing in $8,000 a
month?
George: Well, the sales for
last month were about
$13,000.
Michael: So, let me ask you
this. That’s on just your
tanning service. They come
in and they use the beds to
get tanned and they leave,
right.
George: Yes. We should go to
the _____ because that I
could quadruple that side of
the business.
Michael: And what’s that
called?
George: _____.
Michael: Do you have an
_____ onsite?
George: Yes, I do.
Michael: Are the customers
using that right now?
George: Yes and I know she
is busy probably only two
hours to three hours a day.
Michael: So, what kind of
service does she provide?
George: I think that
brochure also. Facial care
and women wanting manicure,
pedicure, makeup…pretty much
full range of _____.
Michael: Let me ask you
this. You’ve got 350
customers paying ongoing on
a monthly basis. How many of
the customers in your
database are not regular
customers?
George: Inactive?
Michael: Yes, inactive.
George: I would say a
thousand.
Michael: You’ve got a
thousand inactive customers.
Those thousand, when they’re
inactive, are you doing
anything, making any contact
with them.
George: No. I know…that’s
why I mentioned a newsletter
or a selling proposition.
Michael: Absolutely.
George: I know that’s where
I could double the business.
Michael: Double the business
right there.
George: Also the people that
used to purchase from me,
they’ll purchase again. It
is just they get busy and
they come this month just
because in March they have
to go on vacation. They do
not come after the vacation.
Also, they need to keep that
tan. They’ll come next year,
tell me, last year I bought
one of your specials. I
probably should have _____
left.
Michael: That is your best
source for additional
business. You’re sitting on
another $10,000 a month
right there in that
database. Don’t you think it
would be important to
consistently ask them to do
business with you?
George: I know. I even
contacted the _____. I
wanted to do a…design a
newsletter. Send them every
two months with a selling
proposition.
Michael: Sometimes all you
need is a phone call and an
invitation. There are
services that I could help
you out with that can make
all those phone calls
automatically within about
three minutes of time once
it is set up where you can
give them a personal invite
on their answering machine.
There’s enough money in
there, with a compelling
offer, to getting them back
into your shop and to start
rekindling the relationship
with them. I would feel
competent that you can bring
back at least 10 to 20% of
those and make them
consistent customers. Let’s
look at alliance
opportunities. I want to
look for different
relationships with other
businesses, particularly in
your database or right in
your immediate location. Let
me ask this. Who are your
customers? Are they just all
kinds of people or mainly
young females? How would you
categorize…
George: Seventy-five percent
are females.
Michael: What ages?
George: Ages between 18
years to 30 years old; it is
probably 60% of it.
Michael: Do they all live in
the area?
George: Ninety percent live
in geographic business.
Michael: A lot of the young
kids are students. Is there
a university in your area?
George: Not very close, but
it’s probably five miles
away. I don’t get many of
them. There are other
tanning places. Just in this
city, which is 200,000
population, I think there
are 30 tanning salons.
Michael: Do you know of any
other businesses that have a
similar type market who you
can maybe do a promotion
with?
George: Yes…well, any
business…
Michael: Any local gems?
George: Yes. Some of them
have tanning beds. They just
have very basic equipment
they provide to their
members for free. I could
target that market. Also
what I was thinking was
giving some free value like
newspaper, radio stations;
design a package for people
that work let’s say in
this…we have phonebook guide
directory. There are
probably let’s say 200
pages. So, if I go to them
and give them just free
value, two weeks unlimited,
I think it’s something.
Michael: Absolutely, if you
can get them in the door and
make them happy. There are
all kinds of opportunities.
There’s probably four or
five health clubs or
Curves…where people are
tanning or fitness centers
or kickboxing or karate or
dancing or whatever. They’re
all over the place.
George: I should have some
tanning proposition or
something put to their type.
Michael: What you do is you
contact the owners and you
do cross promotions where
you can set up alliances and
have them promoting your
tanning business to their
customers. You can
capitalize on their entire
customer database and work
out an agreement where
you’ll either promote their
services or you can pay them
a small commission, or what
have you.
George: I tried…it was
actually a cross promotion
with a fitness. I gave for
their members 15% off if
they come in and they’re
members. I only have one
person came in.
Michael: So, your offer
wasn’t compelling enough.
Fifteen percent off doesn’t
mean much these days. You
need to change the offer and
try again, but not give up.
But at least you tried.
George: I want to also have
is something like for me to
just talk to the owner and
ask him, look can you put
this here and I’ll promote
your service, come up with
something, how to display
your services in my studio
or you just put this thing
here where people can drop
in like cards or
complimentary.
Michael: I’m going to give
you one idea you can simply
do. You can go to a local
fitness center and you can
say, look, I’ve got a
thousand people on my
database, you’ve got a
thousand customers in your
database, would you like to
trade databases where you
call and contact my
customers with your offer
and I call and contact your
customers with my offer? You
trade databases, but you
have guidelines on what they
can do with or without the
database
George: There is so much
about the privacy now in
Canada that came in from
January and I guess people
really speak about it.
Michael: No, the Privacy
Act, that’s only if you’re
contacting people who are
not on your customer list.
If you’re working with the
fitness center as a
partnership and I think
you’ve been doing it, I mean
I may be wrong, unless the
fitness center swore that
their list wouldn’t be
rented out or anything. But
if the fitness center
endorses you as a
non-competing service and it
helps and benefits their
customers, I don’t think
there’s any problem with
that.
George: Shouldn’t be a
problem if I come up with
the right material and the
right pitch. It probably
should be something similar
to…
Michael: So, do you see how
setting up some joint
ventures with some
non-competing businesses
helps? You could really get
a ton of new customers as
long as you can set one or
two of these up. Do you see
how that can grow that
business a little bit?
George: Yes, I could see,
Mike, if you come up with
material.
Michael: We could do that.
Maybe you’ve got media. Are
you doing anything with the
media? Have you gotten any
kind of newspaper write up
in your local media or any
radio?
George: In newsletters have
like advertising in it. Most
of the time I actually don’t
want to put coupons or
something. I put a story…
Michael: You’re talking
about advertising. Tell me
about your advertising. Are
you doing any advertising?
George: Yes, billboards.
Michael: You’re doing a
billboard?
George: That’s one way.
Michael: Do you have a
billboard up right now?
George: Yes, I have it right
now for Valentine’s Day.
Michael: How much is that
billboard a month?
George: $170.
Michael: A month?
George: Yes.
Michael: Where is it
located?
George: On the front of the
_____, on a traffic
light…there is an
intersection.
Michael: What does it say?
George: What I have right
now is six tans and a sample
of lotion for $28.
Michael: It has your phone
number on there?
George: Yes.
Michael: Does it have the
address?
George: The address is right
there. They know where we
are.
Michael: So, this is right
in front…
George: Yes, it’s just in
front of business quarter.
Michael: Okay, I’ve got you.
George: There is a
karate…there is a variety
store, there is a doctor’s
office, pharmacy.
Michael: It sounds like
you’ve got a lot of
businesses right there in
your mall. Have you ever
done any kind of little
partnership or put coupons
or stuff on the counters of
these businesses?
George: I placed business
cards and also complementary
tans.
Michael: Has that worked at
all?
George: Not as much as they
were expecting. I don’t know
what I was expecting.
Michael: What other
advertising are you doing
besides a billboard,
anything else?
George: Yellow Pages.
Michael: How much are you
spending on your Yellow
Pages?
George: $4,000 a year.
Another $4,000 on _____,
$8,000 a year.
Michael: Is that where
you’re getting most of your
new customers? Are you
tracking that?
George: Most of them
referred by friends.
Michael: Most of them are
referral.
George: Yes.
Michael: So, you’re
advertising. You don’t
really know how effective it
is.
George: In the Yellow Pages,
I don’t really believe in
it. Last year I did not pick
out the same advertisement.
I actually _____ this year
with a selling proposition
instead.
Michael: In the Yellow
Pages?
George: Yes.
Michael: When you get a
customer calling, do you ask
them if they saw the ad in
the Yellow Pages or how they
heard about you?
George: Yes. Once they come
in, it’s one of the
questions, how did they hear
about us.
Michael: How many times doe
they say the Yellow Pages?
George: No that many.
Overall, it’s not paid off.
I’m not getting…
Michael: So, you’re losing
money on your Yellow Pages.
George: Yes I am.
Michael: So, next year, you
should stop your Yellow Page
advertising and that $8,000
you can put into other
marketing methods with a lot
more power and a lot more
results. So, that’s probably
a good idea. I mean do you
think next year you’re going
to stop that?
George: Yellow Page, they
just came and marked my new
advertisement. It’s coming
next month. Right now
they’re on the website. The
Yellow Pages has a website,
right?
Michael: Yes.
George: I was thinking I
would get lots of people
from the website looking.
Now, people go to the Yellow
Pages online instead of hard
book Yellow Pages. And I
don’t really get…
Michael: We could optimize
your website. If someone’s
looking for tanning in your
local area and they’re
searching any of the major
search engines, I can set
your website up where you’ll
come up.
George: When you pay Google?
Michael: Not even with paid.
You can get listed in the
natural search engines. That
can be done, as well. You’re
spending a lot of money on
Yellow Page advertising
right now that isn’t
bringing you back any money.
Now, what I was also
wondering, the media has
never done a story on you.
If we created a unique
story…
George: That’s where I
wanted to concentrate. I was
approached by this
newsletter representative in
the area who is sending
10,000 copies each month,
asked me if I wanted to
advertise. I said I don’t
like advertising _____ story
about my business. And we
tried small. I’ll see how
it’s going to come out.
That’s what I wanted…
Michael: You can create a
unique story around your
tanning beds, something
really unique that catches
attention. You’ve got to
come up with crazy ideas.
What city are you located
in?
George: Kitchener.
Michael: What’s the state?
George: Ontario.
Michael: So, you can say
local Kitchener, Ontario
businessman tans his cat. Do
you know what I’m saying?
You can claim that tanning
your pets are good for
you…something so crazy that
the newspaper will come out
and do a story on you.
You’ve got to come up with
crazy stuff like five
kittens born in local
Kitchener’s tanning bed. Do
you know what I’m saying?
Funny stuff that makes the
news and you can send a
press release out to the
local papers and they’ll
come out to your place and
you build a story around it
and, of course, they list
the name of your company.
George: And that’s when I
said that I want to have
free value giving to this
type of business; the radio,
newspaper.
Michael: Ontario tanning
expert shows you five
reasons why you should tan
before your next vacation,
or five critical reasons why
tanning beds are safer than
outdoor tanning…things like
that. The media looks for
stories like that for the
consumers and you could
become in your local area
the tan man, the expert on
indoor tanning. You could
literally become a local
celebrity because the media
is always looking for great
stories. So, you need
someone with creativity to
position that for you and to
show you how that’s doable.
George: I have got one idea,
Mike, about creating, but
really growing my aesthetic
part business because I know
that’s where I could
concentrate. That publicity
in tanning, not everyone
wants to go indoor tanning,
but every woman out there
wants to look beautiful.
Michael: Well, that’s
another whole business and
that would be another whole
hour on the phone, but I see
what you’re saying.
George: That I’ve actually
got an idea, romance get
away for males when they
purchase something for their
_____. I’m going to have a
limousine pick up for the
woman, bring her to the spa,
take her to a restaurant
after the spa where her
husband is going to wait for
her. We’re going to have the
dinner and the Champaign and
everything hooked in
together. I think to
advertise it as we save
marriages.
Michael: You saw that in the
Dan Kennedy thing.
George: Yes.
Michael: That’s a great
idea.
George: The guy with the
restaurant?
Michael: Yes, you could do
the same thing, the romance
director.
George: Yes, the romance
director, but what I want to
have is not only the
restaurant, but limousine
pick up.
Michael: That’s an excellent
idea. Also with your list
and your database, direct
marketing and direct mail
and postcards and letters
are very effective. You
could really do a wonderful
sales job selling someone on
the benefits of tanning if
you took the time and you
created a great direct mail
letter that could be mailed
out to your non-active
prospects and potential
prospects.
You could get with the
travel agencies in your
area, the companies who are
booking travel, and you
could create a report
especially for the travel
agencies on how to not get
burned on your next
vacation. They could send
that out to all their
customers who they’re
booking vacations for who
are going all across the
world in hot sun climates.
They could incorporate in
their travel package
pre-tanning before their
trip. That would be a nice
benefit.
George: I know I could
specialize in this. Where I
struggle is coming up with
just the words, Michael. The
ideas are there. I need a
copywriter or someone when I
go to design this to show
the benefits and come up
with it. That’s where I
cannot really communicate
that or write it.
I heard the best person to
write it up and everything
is me, but it’s probably
because of my English is a
second language. I’m
limited. That’s where I need
someone who could come. I
know that they’re out there.
For sure they’re out there,
those newsletter on tanning
from the _____ or on any
service. It doesn’t have to
be tanning. I just have to
change the name.
Michael: I totally
understand. Some of the
things we’ve talked about, I
think we’re on the same page
and you absolutely
understand by having someone
do these for you, then it’s
basically money in the bank.
You should easily be able to
recoup your investment back
and really grow that
business to where you want
it to go.
George: I understand that.
So, for me it’s not really
spending money. It’s
investing money, let’s say
30% of an investment.
Michael: I have some open
time in my consulting
schedule for this month. If
it’s something you’d be
interested in doing, I think
it would be a fun project.
I’d love to work on this.
You certainly don’t have to
do all of these projects to
grow the business to where
you want because you do have
a limited capacity. We maybe
able to just implement three
or four of these steps in
the system to get you up to
full capacity. Can you
handle the growth if we can
fill you up? Do you have all
the employees and you can
handle the growth and
everything?
George: Well, if I can’t
handle, I can expand.
Michael: So, you’d be
willing to expand if the
growth was there?
George: Yes. For me it’s
going to be do I have
everything I need from here
except writing for whatever
material stuff. I could take
my time to mail them, put
the system in action. I’ll
act on everything that I
have to, but to come up with
writing the newsletter or
writing the five benefits,
I…
Michael: Well, I’m going to
do all that for you.
George: And even those
reports that are going to be
kind of a information
report, give those to the
travel agencies with some
voucher from our business…
Michael: Yes, absolutely.
George: Like a gift to their
customers.
Michael: I’m going to do all
that for you. But the first
thing…I wouldn’t do any of
that until the first project
is done. The USP is
critical. I won’t work on
anything until that’s done.
George: Okay.
Michael: What I can do is
I’ll make you an offer just
like you make an offer to
your new potential
prospects. Instead of buying
the whole thing at once,
I’ll do the USP project.
I’ll do it for $1,500. And
if you like the USP, then we
can move forward with other
projects. The USP project
isn’t necessarily going to
bring you immediate money,
but its got to be put in
place because the next step,
reactivating your customers
is where the money really
is. I think we can get a lot
of growth just by contacting
your inactive customers. But
we can’t contact them
without something to say and
we can’t say anything until
we develop and do the
research on why your
customers should come back
and that’s the USP. Do you
see?
George: Okay.
Michael: So, your growth in
your company…it may not come
right at the USP, but it’s a
critical investment to do.
Then once we have that, we
can move on to step 2 and
we’ll go from there. Is that
all right with you?
George: Yes, it is Mike.
Michael: Why don’t I put
together a simple agreement?
I can email it over to you
of what you can expect from
me and what I’m going to
expect from you. You’ll have
to pay me for the USP up
front before I get started
and I’m ready to get going
on it right away. There’s
four steps in the USP
process, so I’ve done a lot
of the interviewing with
you, but I also want to talk
to some of your employees
and I’ll also be doing some
competitive analysis on your
competition. They won’t know
what I’ll be doing, but I’m
going to document that for
you and I’m going to show
you some things…
George: I could tell you
some of the names and
probably websites.
Michael: We’ll do that. I
think it would be a lot of
fun.
George: Yes. Send the
agreement for $1,500. Are
you going to have a bank
account where I could wire
the money?
Michael: Yes, I can give you
a bank account.
George: Do you do Master
Card?
Michael: You could put it on
Visa or Master Card, either
way.
George: Can I do it
Canadian?
Michael: Is your Visa a
Canadian Visa?
George: Yes.
Michael: I think they
automatically convert it.
George: The rate is about
another 12%.
Michael: You just give me
your Visa and I just run it
through and they convert it
automatically.
George: $1,500 for me is
probably going to be $1,800.
Michael: You’re Canadian. I
see what you’re saying. It’s
$1,500 US. What I’ll do…why
don’t we go $1,200 US.
George: Oh great.
Michael: So, we’ll reduce it
down on your end.
George: That’s great.
Michael: Is that fair?
George: That’s fair, Mike.
Thank you very much.
Michael: This has been a
pleasure. I think you’re
sitting on a lot of assets,
there’s no doubt. Is your
customer database all
entered into a database
right now?
George: It is in the…she
knows the software design
for _____ and they are based
in Utah and it is a
software, very smart. You
could get from there
everything.
Michael: Well, we can talk
about it. Let me do this.
Let me run now. I’ll put
together a simple agreement.
I’ll email it over to you.
I’ll send you a way you can
get me paid with your Visa,
Master Card, and we’ll get
going on a good USP for you.
George: Should I come up
with some information for
you like…
Michael: After we take care
of the payment we’re going
to set up another time to
talk. It takes generally
four to six weeks for me to
develop a USP. During that
time I will be asking you
for some information that
you’re going to have to get
to me. You’re going to give
me the names of your
competitors for my
competitive analysis and
then I will need some names
and numbers of some of your
employees that I can talk
to, as well.
George: I was thinking, now
the business for the tanning
business is April/May.
Michael: April and May.
George: If we use that, I
cannot see my money until
next year.
Michael: No, no, no. We can
get going on this right
away. We should be well into
everything by the end of
March, right at the
beginning of April.
George: Great.
Michael: Okay.
George: Great.
Michael: I like to get on
things fast. I like to give
myself four to six weeks,
but I maybe able to even go
sooner.
George: Okay.
Michael: All right.
George: Thank you very much.
It’s been a pleasure. Thanks
for calling me.
Michael: You’re very
welcome.
George: I appreciate it. If
there’s anything I could do
for you…
Michael: Let’s just have a
great success with you and
we’ll use it as a case
study.
George: Okay.
Michael: The best thing you
can do for me is just we’re
going to work together as
team and you’re going to
follow my advice. You just
look at me as a doctor and
you’re the patient.
George: Yes. You’re the
expert, I know, and I always
want to have an expert on my
team.
Michael: You’ve got it.
George: Thank you very much,
Mike.
Michael: Take care.
That’s the end of this
opportunity analysis with
the small business tanning
bed operator. Please stay
tuned for the future
recordings as I’m going to
document some of my
consulting with him as I
help build and grow his
business. Thanks a lot.
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